Why Windows Vista Sucks

IntelliAdmin put up a pretty good review of 5 things that are maddening about Vista and why it still sucks and I agree with every single one of them.

I’ve ran Vista since Beta 2, and RC2 and now RTM and I will sum up the entire Vista experience for you in a nutshell:

Vista is Windows XP, with incessant security-dialogs for every action you take, with a nice Theme, some UI effects and searching

That’s it… in a nutshell. There are some nitty gritty details and APIs that are different, but for 80-90% of folks that just want to “use” their computers to get work done, that is exactly what Vista is going to feel like. The first thing you will notice is that it looks very nice, they did a good job there. Then the second thing you will immediately notice is how many times a popup jumps infront of what you are doing to ask you to OK the action that is about to take place. If you are installing software, drivers or just copying files to certain locations you will likely be inundated with dialog boxes asking you to OK your action.

In addition to that, core design principles that made you crazy in Windows XP are still there in Vista. For example, if you upload files to a network share that is slow or goes offline, that will totally lock up the explorer process, which means all the other explorer (file browser) windows you have open will be locked up.

Additionally stupid defaults and even stupider behaviors run rampant just as they did in Windows XP (Constant notifications, focus-stealing notification popups and so on).

The icing on the cake of Vista is this dialog. This dialog completely sums up Vista, it’s design, it’s goals and who it’s catering to:

  • What the hell is an “Indexed location”
  • What are “non-indexed” files
  • That the bar across the top is actually buttons
  • That your menu bar is on the bottom-middle of the window
  • That you have a search bar on your search results page… does that mean search within the results?
  • What are tags? Who are authors?
  • Why isn’t there a box to type some text into like Google?
  • When I click E-mail to search, how come I don’t see my Gmail or Hotmail mail?

And the list goes on and on and on. This dialog really does a great job summing up Vista. It was developed by software engineers, for each other, in a furious rush as the project was stopped and restarted twice in a 6 year period and the end results? Well just look at the beginning of my post, it’s Windows XP again, with a nicer Theme, crazy security confirmation dialogs everywhere and all the same annoying design that made us confused and angry the first time through.

Update #1: Looks like Service Pack #1 for Vista is starting testing and will be due out Q2 of this year. There are rumors that SP1 won’t just be bug fixes but will include components that didn’t make it into the Vista RTM, like the PowerShell feature a lot of folks were waiting on.

Update #2: Looks like malware authors have ported their software (spyware, viruses, etc.) to Vista faster than security companies can port their cleaning applications. Joy.

Update #3: I’m not he only one that can’t get over the stupidity in Vista, Techgage’s Rob Williams did his top 8 annoyances in Vista and I agree with him.

Update #4: Scot Finnie sums up the core problem of Vista: it’s built to avoid complaints and to cater to enterprise customers. There is not much work in Vista that caters to user-based scenarios (please see the dialog I mentioned above), but there is a ton of work that (like UAC) that exists just so Microsoft can sit back and say “Hey, we made it secure, we can’t help it if you just click through all the dialogs). Really? Somehow Linux and Mac managed to not suck at this, but Microsoft takes a different tact and makes UAC the most obtrusive goddamn thing you’ve ever seen. How could you ever hand this off to your parents and say “Have fun with your new computer mom!”, she’d be calling you every other day asking what the dialog was about.

Update #5: Microsoft issues all invalid keys for the supposed “Ultimate Family Pack” deal they were running and there is no ETA for when new keys that work will be issued. So just incase you bought that pack, remember, go sit on a broom stick and wait for Microsoft to get back to you, but ultimately who cares? They have your money, sucker.

Update #6: PCWorld does a multi-page article on all the annoyances in Vista.

Update #7: Forbes did a piece on what a piece of crap Vista is. I have to say I agreed on every single point and ran across everything myself except for the CHKDSK after a bluescreen (I did run into bluescreens, just no CHKDSKs after)

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110 Responses to “Why Windows Vista Sucks”

  1. GCMSGuru February 4, 2007 at 12:48 am #

    Good God, I made a big screwup when I bought Vista this afternoon; well yesterday afternoon.

    The experience installing, numerous times, Vista makes me remember very well experiences that I had in the early 1990′s with offerings such as Win 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, etc. BBBBBAAAAARRRRRFFFFF!

    Vista is so bad that it doesn’t border on fraud: IT IS FRAUD.

    I’m going back to Win 2000 or possibly XP. I have duly authorized copies by the way if anyone cares.

    • Aang June 21, 2010 at 7:45 pm #

      LOVA XP!!!!!!!!!!

    • peter September 21, 2011 at 9:55 am #

      This is it,now i am realy pissed,vista cant play me music,i open a song, but it refuses to play, wtf

  2. Riyad Kalla February 4, 2007 at 7:45 am #

    What types of things did you notice that drove you nuts about the OS in particular?

    I was amazed at some of the speed problems, like trying to *move* (not copy) a directory with a lot of files from one location to another… it’s just rediculous.

  3. david February 7, 2007 at 2:43 pm #

    Yeah,,,preinstalled Vista means I have to shell out $200 to get XP on my BRAND NEW GD system,,,thanks HP you stupid turds….I should have had the option….Half my hardware that worked fined under XP is not supported in Vista,,and the vendors that make it have stated that they will not offer Vista updates,,,,oh well one flatbed scanner and one laser printer goes to the landfill…along with at least 5 of my most used software programs,,,but Vista does have nice dinging bells and other useless crap,,,,I hope Bills next prostate exam is due soon, and that Godzilla gets to wear the glove, Newton had it right..Apples are inspiring,, PCs just cause perspiring!!

  4. Riyad Kalla February 7, 2007 at 3:20 pm #

    Hah, that’s brutal but I feel your pain.

  5. Nicholas February 7, 2007 at 6:28 pm #

    Vista is supposed to be a step forward for the “Digital Lifestyle” that Mac OS X started buzzing 3 years ago. Some cool “ground-breaking” features in Vista include:

    Search. I don’t know if anyone’s noticed but desktop searching has been around for a while – so now it’s integrated into the OS, fun. It requires you to annoying tag everything yourself with meta data. Groan.

    Gadgets. Or widgets – as Apple coined them. The ones that come out of box are okay … the database of gadgets is horribly small and the quality is just not there. Seems the creative types are busy making widgets for Apple’s Mac OS X. This might change with time.

    DVDs. Yes – now you don’t need to fork out extra money to watch DVDs on your computer, as the decoder is built into the OS now – no longer do you need 3rd party software to do what other OS users take for granted. Why did it take them so long to figure that one out. Sigh. And the “Wow” starts now — especially when you try to get onto the digital lifestyle – sync you Windows smartphone to your computer and are told “Sorry you don’t have Outlook installed.” But Windows comes with it’s own Mail, Calendar/Task, Contacts software now. Sorry – no… fork over the cash, who said the digital life style was free! M$

    Glassy UI. The UI is nice – but it’s a big departure from usability. It looks pretty – but good luck trying to navigate and get stuff done. You’ll spend more time hunting for that elusive menu, peering for that shadow title bar (because black on grey works so well). It’ll make you bonkers.

    I approve this reply. The last and most annoying thing – you have to constantly deal with the UAC (annoying security pop-up button). It doesn’t make your PC any more secure. Walk away from it and anyone can click the “I approve” button. Mac OS X will challenge you once for a session (which times out after a time) for the admin password. In a given 1 hour session I must click this pop-up 20+ times. I’d turn it off but then my systray Windows security agent icon keeps spewing out “Danger – you are in danger the UAC is off!!” message which are even more annoying.

  6. Riyad Kalla February 7, 2007 at 7:42 pm #

    Nicholas,
    That was a hell of a write up. A lot of good information in there and stuff I”ve personally seen myself. The UAC is a total joke. For any person that will be installing Vista for a parent or loved one that doesn’t know computers too well, my guess is 90% will simply turn off UAC before handing it over to the person, which naturally negates it completely.

    Then to boot you have the complete disregard for design consistency across the UI and you are pretty much left stranded in a new environment where learning one skill won’t apply to every other area in the OS.

    The synchronization issue is true testament to the Microsoft motto of “buy more, it’s not good enough”. You figure you drop $400 on Ultimate and want to plug your phone in and sync it… oh god forbit, time to cough up another $2-400 for Office so you can synchronize it. Not to shabby, $600+ to sync a phone and get animated menus… or $129 for Apple OS (assuming you own the hardware), or free for Linux (but then it’s a bit of mix and match to get the syncing working).

    • ROBERT November 13, 2010 at 3:23 pm #

      Want to hear something really funny? People have few qualms about buying. Remember in the past, they actually had a pet rock? You may also remember people bought them.

  7. sada April 26, 2007 at 4:28 am #

    add more ram

  8. Vista Hater October 24, 2007 at 5:44 am #

    Wow, Vista is beyond bad. You don’t even want to know what happens when you run a game.I mean seriously, why did they make such faulty software?!?!?!?!

    • Stefan Lunte March 2, 2010 at 5:46 pm #

      What happens in a game is that the game freezes and if you have a laptop, you have to take the battery out.

  9. Vistabul December 24, 2007 at 5:08 pm #

    Vista IS the current ME. Why would anyone want to “freely” beta-test ideas for the next OS by Microsoft? Based square on the past; the next OS will be fine. For those wanting to: …have at it!

  10. Riyad Kalla December 24, 2007 at 6:30 pm #

    Vistabul,
    I think you are exactly right. Windows 7 or whatever they end up calling it, will likely be what Vista was *suppose* to be in the first place… and another $400

  11. patrickbateman666 March 2, 2008 at 9:46 am #

    I hate vista and if I ever meet Bill Gates Im gonna rape him with a Pepsi bottle for causing me all this fucking stress!!! good day to all.

  12. Mr Roboto March 31, 2008 at 4:09 pm #

    Go to the Pirate Bay and search for a torrent called Windows XP Pro SP2 Student. It’s Win XP without any of the WGA validation crap. I’ve been using it for about 4 years with No activation ever! I have a valid copy of both XP but am using the student version because of all the unjustified copyright garbage. Unjustified because MS has already made Billions off of XP yet they continue to bombard me with WGA crap!

  13. Riyad Kalla April 1, 2008 at 8:21 am #

    Roboto, interesting suggestion. Thanks for the heads up for any other folks out there that are curious.

  14. Mav April 22, 2008 at 1:44 pm #

    I have a few very large issues with Vista, first of all (and this has been mentioned before I think) it takes more time to calculate how much time is remaining when you copy a file than it does to just fucking copy it….second of all, wtf takes so long about connecting to a wireless network, Ubuntu connects almost instantly every time, and vista take 60 fucking seconds to get an IP…please…thirdly have you every tried to use 2 net work interfaces, and two separate networks? Good luck, if they both don’t have internet, your DNS options will be screwed up. So gg vista for screwing up the most basic fucking functions of a computer.

  15. Riyad Kalla April 22, 2008 at 2:09 pm #

    Mav,
    Totally agree about the “calculating” thing, it’s so stupid. As for the wireless network, I have heard horror-stories, fortunately I”m on a wired network so haven’t had to deal with it… (but I’ll never throw Vista on my laptop)

  16. manny April 24, 2008 at 1:53 am #

    wow how i miss this article (nice, indeed, lol), my rss feeds probably didn’t update well that day :(

  17. JP April 28, 2008 at 1:29 pm #

    Actually I like the UAC, but why can’t the user designate that some programs should always run as administrator and with no prompts?

    The Vista’s design implementation of Shadow Copy is rough, as is Search. (But if you turn those off, it may cause problems installing other MS programs, such as MS Live Messenger.)

    Both of those background services eat up hard drive access.

    They make multiple copies of files, and automatically index and cache. You can’t control which directories it caches or makes multiple copies of files from. It appears to do the whole hard drive. Imagine this bloatware also competing for HD access w/Norton anti-virus (another piece of bloatware), and windows update and auto-defrag, and superfetch.

    Imagine all these background pieces of “convenience” causing a traffice jam with the HD while doing a hibernation, or running while you are trying to copy a large folder of hundreds of files, and you quickly realize the brainless architecture problems.

    Why can’t shadow copy be configured only to make backup restore points of the system, and/or only designated folders?

    If alot of those services can be safely disabled and disabled from a more newbie friendly configuration interface, ( and without causing problems with other MS App installs), then Vista would probably run faster and more smoothly.

  18. Riyad Kalla April 28, 2008 at 2:11 pm #

    JP,
    Microsoft is coding to the “least common denominator” in Vista and Vienna (and likely from now on)… more specifically, they roll out a feature that can either be turned on, or off, but not configured and tweaked.

    You see it everywhere in Vista, like the new Backup and Restore panel as well as the new Defragmentation tool… you can no longer control “details” of anything anymore.

  19. faded_get May 14, 2008 at 7:13 am #

    I can confirm that Vista sucks at copying or just moving large numbers of files. It always locks up while “calculating time remaining.”
    The security dialogues are a constant annoyance. Battlefield Vietnam, Fallout 2, and I’m sure countless other games have graphical problems.
    I’ve tried many times and many ways to get XP onto my laptop, but it just doesn’t work since the thing came with Vista. Fuck. FUUUUUUUCK!

  20. Riyad Kalla May 14, 2008 at 8:03 am #

    Faded,
    Have you applied SP1 of Vista yet? It sort of helped with the copying-taking-forever stuff… I don’t know if it will help those games thoughs… such is the wisdom of Microsoft (to kick it’s user’s ass)

    And now that SP3 is breaking Windows XP copies all over the place, it seems there is no perfect Windows OS anymore.

  21. mark May 14, 2008 at 6:44 pm #

    in xp you could just type the word you’re looking for in a saved email on cd in the 2nd box but now in vista no matter how you change the search options, indexes, etc, it will not find it even if it’s a snake staring right at it.

    ITA, i have vista twice and it does suck!

    they should offer us free upgrade to whatever os is next for having to put up with this crap.

    yes, i have xp also.

  22. Fake Bill G July 8, 2008 at 1:32 am #

    Disclaimer: I work at MS, but not on the Windows team. These opinions are my own, I have no clue if the windows team actually had similar rationalizations. Also I’m not an expert on operating systems so the technical stuff wont be 100% accurate, but close enough for the purposes of this comment.

    I’ll try and shed some objective light on few things people are bitching about.

    1. Drivers

    Anyone with half a brain can figure out why device manufacturers don’t care about updating their drivers. There can be only one reason – Drivers don’t help sell products, not by themselves – The ONLY thing they care about is selling their product. We, AFAIK, have made public the Driver model spec well in advance, and haven’t done any last minute “switch” to keep device vendors hanging. There simply wasn’t a huge push in the industry to write vista drivers before Vista RTM’d. Drivers are very hard to get right, the technically inclined would know they run in kernelmode/ring-0, making them a cause of system crashes, more than anything. I can say with 90% certainty that almost all BSODs in XP and Vista can be attributed to the combination of terrible drivers, failing RAM, or one of those godforsaken copy protection schemes that some games install as low level system components.

    2. Malware (excluding viruses)

    OK, this is slightly ambiguous, there are all kinds of malware. But abstracting from the different kinds, all it boils down to, is running a piece of software in user-mode, which has for all intents and purposes the same rights as other software. The fact that a lot of people are stupid enough to run any software that they find in their emails is kind of the point. Nothing can prevent that. Anti malware just a glorified un-installer. Ofcource there are all kinds of sneaky malware, some easy, some hard to remove.

    3. UAC

    The fact that UAC keeps on annoying users is actually a yard stick to measure competency of the software developers of any particular software. Unless it *has* to modify the system in a critical way, there should be no need for a software to require admin privileges. (How often do you guys install drivers? Once a week?) After years of cultivating bad habits, all devs take running as root granted, and its hard to change bad habits. One way is to take the heat by putting a roadblock like UAC, which is annoying and frustrating, that gets people to redesign their software to a better standard. Some of these bad habits : Writing user config/setting files/data to Program Files , or %SystemRoot%\System32 when “Documents and Settings” exists for this specific reason will cause UAC annoyance. Ofcource Vista itself generates those UAC popups, some of which , i agree ,are overkill.

    4. DRM.
    This is the biggest non-issue, if ever. DRM can be avoided by -> not buying DRM content. Anyone who thinks DRM is causing “slow” performance or any other such nonsense should be politely asked for evidence, failing which I would personally label aforementioned sentiments as trolling. Especially those that want you to switch to OSX because of this. (“LOLZZ DRM makes ur computer slow, thats why I switched to a mac”) An argument can be made to switch to OSX, and I’m fine with people switching, as long as both sides are accurately represented (kind of impossible but.. w/e -_- ). Apple is the biggest supporter of DRM with their iTunes store, and locking-in people with to the iPod (No, I dont want to Burn CD’s in iTunes and rip them again. Thank you very much). I like the iPod, but no way in hell am I purchasing any DRM crap from ITunes or to anyone else for that matter.

    G’Day !

  23. Riyad Kalla July 8, 2008 at 7:04 am #

    Fake Bill,
    Great reply and I think you covered a lot of the lower-level details that people bitch about, however I think the reasons that end-users hate Windows Vista so far are:

    * It’s different for no reason
    * It’s illogical – reading how it took 6 months to design the start menu and they finally ended up with the piece of shit that is there now gives an amazing level of insight into the “design by government organization” type of development occuring at Microsoft pre-Vista.
    * The user interfaces for a lot of the OS are either so damn dumb they are unusable or so overly complicated that they are again… unusable (like the screenshot in this post).

  24. zazugrey July 8, 2008 at 11:53 pm #

    I found one upside to Vista. When I went to buy my last desktop I knew I didn’t want Vista, and Microsoft was pushing Vista so hard that Fry’s had to call a brand-new still-in-the-box HP desktop with XP “refurbished” and sell it to me at half price. Not that running XP is much to gloat about, but it still beats the crap out of Vista.

    Unfortunately, I have Vista on my laptop and it’s ridiculous. If the laptop goes to sleep it can no longer find the network it was using just fine moments before, and I have to shut down completely and reboot to get online. Meanwhile my wife pops open her Macbook and is online in seconds. The authorizations are truly silly on an epic scale. My record so far is six administrator authorization/confirmation screens for one click on an install dialog. SIX!! WTF?? These were not for separate sections of an install! They were six in a fucking row following one button click!!

  25. Riyad Kalla July 9, 2008 at 6:55 am #

    zazugrey,
    Those are awesome examples of Vista; I like the 6-UAC-dialogs, I think I’ve only gotten to 4 before for a single action, but really that is gold.

    You have to appreciate that Unix and Mac have been doing this a different/less intrusive way for 20 years but Microsoft has decided that they are going to “force good practices” on everyone with a mechanism that helps no-one that they invented during some brain-storming session.

    Brilliant.

    Let’s see how Vienna pans out, I *assume* it will be a lot better, but likely more intrusive as well.

  26. binlaky September 13, 2008 at 4:02 pm #

    it amazes me that quite a few people actually said they liked vista in reply to another popular blog entry: http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/why-vista-sucks/

    I suspect they are either shills or genuine idiots that vista was originally designed for. The other day i walked into a bookstore and noticed that there were so many people browsing at titles at the “for dummies” section, and this got me thinking: right, there so many fools and suckers around in the world, and *they* don’t think vista sucks.

    Unfortunately for the rest of us who are more intelligent, vista is just not designed for us.

  27. Rhieland September 13, 2008 at 7:46 pm #

    Wanna hear a joke? Vista! But on a more serious note… You know, I am actually liking this site. Surprisingly, I found it on google. Anyway, With the DX10, only through vista (Or some russian computer group), and DX9L (Microsoft’s way of saying, hey DX9 was a good upgrade, but this one is even better! Plus it’s only for vista!), the oh so ever persistent security messages, glossy appearance trading off for the 20 min start-up, and with a few other things closely put together. It makes for a quite spectacular downgrade. In fact, I have seen printers that actually require 128 megs of RAm from Xp, but 512 for Vista. So that next version of windows better be windows xp, just more organized. If you did that microsoft, Windows would no longer be a joke.

  28. friskymix September 25, 2008 at 9:04 pm #

    i h8 vista so bad my computer bought brand new 5months ago is going in the garbage how stupid java dosent work worth shit neither do any worth while programs i was actually excited when i got my comp now i wish i never purchased it in the first place anyone have any ideas because im done with this big piece of crap waste of money$ others make money selling shit like this please actually check the products b4 sending them out on ppl who actually give a crap about the things they buy.

  29. Amol October 10, 2008 at 1:18 pm #

    Its been over a year since I got my Rig. I have it triple boot (Vista/XP/Ubuntu) because I found vista so unbearable I had to install XP just so I could run it.

    I still cant use my 24 bit creative X-fi cuz vista cannot run the driver & the audio software. This leaves the HTPC capabilities of the PC in the dust.

    I cant watch Netflix online movies, because seems like Vista+SP1 has some incompatibility issues with netflix media player.

    I cannot run X windows inside cygwin, because it crashes on startup.

    I cannot run VNC Server, because it crashes when a user tries to connect to it.

    There quite a few games which crash, sometimes right before saving progress at 90% level completion.

    The list goes on, hence I reboot and login to XP.

  30. donald duck November 2, 2008 at 5:15 pm #

    some people are just too stupid to have computers

  31. bob December 12, 2008 at 7:36 pm #

    vista=epic failure

  32. Gatesey December 25, 2008 at 3:27 pm #

    HAHA idiots just never learn. They bitch about every single Windows release but as soon as another one comes out they are running to give Billy boy their money hahaha. UAC? Antivirus? WTF? I don’t even use antivirus software on my free Ubuntu OS, and I’ve never had a virus in 5 years lolz. Oh but vista is so pretty! Here’s my money, Bill! Then, when you finally update it, I’ll pay another $400 for it! Morons.

  33. vista December 29, 2008 at 10:46 am #

    Vista is totally a bad product. Stop using it.

  34. tim johnson February 4, 2009 at 7:49 am #

    that is bullshit. i have vista on an old computer 5 years old and it runs smoothly

  35. Amol February 4, 2009 at 8:36 pm #

    Vista sucks so bad, I cant stand it.

    I have moved all my useful stuff to my macbook (and vmware for those few things that you absolutely need windows for). And I use my desktop for watching movies and netflix alone. I tried using it for gaming but vista sucks at that as well. So now its just a youtube/torrent/movie box.

    Its too bad I cant cause any kind of loss to microsoft, since I already paid my licenses, and by not using the OS, I’m only causing a loss to myslef and a profit for M$, but at least this way I live a stress free life.

  36. Riyad Kalla February 5, 2009 at 7:16 am #

    Tim,

    There is no way I believe that… 5 years, you are talking about 1.6ghz AMDs and 1.8Ghz P3/P4 IIRC… not a chance Vista is “running smooth” on that.

  37. james April 10, 2009 at 11:40 pm #

    Microsoft totally blew their rep with me.. next computer is going to be a MAC something that is totally away from MS .. was happy with xp then this vista came in .. what total crap. crtash after crash. go to close a window it locks up .. just one pathetic thing after another .. I got so upset with this computer I punched it and had to have it repaired (still under warranty) thats how ripped off I felt with VISTA and GATEWAY BTW GATEWAY computers are now E-machines with a gateway logo.. dont ever buy a gateway and think you are getting quality anymore. Next computer I get will be a MAC . microsoft shot themselves in the foot and blew their credibility with me because of VISTA .. This is what happens when you outsoyrce your programmers to india with people use to living in 3rd world countries with no sense of American quality and very poor imaginations .. Go to a american owned convenience store it is usually clean. Go to a Indian owned store they usually hae the air not running the place stinks and their sign out front is falling apart with outdated food on their shelves .. the same applies with the programmers in INDIA .. NO SENSE OF AMERICAN QUALITY ! NONE 20 cent a hour people Burn in hell MICROSOFT

  38. Aaron April 23, 2009 at 11:23 pm #

    Yes the pop up OK to do anything new in Vista is at worst annoying.
    My problem with Vista OS is that from day 1 it never worked as well as XP.

    A year, and a half ago I bought a new laptop with Vista installed. As soon as I turned it on I had to update all my secondary software such as Netflix, TiVo to name a few. I should have known than I was in trouble. After these updates everything seemed fine except the monthly lock-ups.
    These eventually became weekly, than daily. It got so bad I couldn’t watch a complete episode of Jay Leno without Vista having to reboot. Finally the software ate itself, and I installed my old XP. Now everything works perfectly.

    Bottom Line
    I will never buy a computer with Vista on it.
    I was so frustrated that when my daughter needed a computer for college I bought an Apple. Just so I wouldn’t have to deal with Vista again.
    My advice stick with XP, because Vista is junk.

    Take Care
    Aaron

  39. omar May 29, 2009 at 1:43 pm #

    I have a dell notebook w. a 2 GHz processor & 2.5GB of RAM, I use xp on it & it runs beautifully, I use ArcGIS, edit alot of camera raw images in Adobe Photoshop and it does this without delay or complaint. With vista it would need 2 gb of RAM just to run properly, and with my machine’s specs it would barely be useable let alone up to what i use mine for.

    Microsoft’s new philosophy of doing less with more as is the case with vista is a great big leap in the wrong direction.

    The constant pop ups and the freezing and crashing also costs valuable productive time, and in case those guys at MS forgot; time is money.
    My next computer will certainly be a Mac, now if only ESRI would make a version of ArcGIS for Mac so i wouldn’t have run windows in bootcamp to use it.

  40. Bryan Sadface June 8, 2009 at 9:07 am #

    I have VISTA, i just got a new Gateway laptop..with vista already on it, refurbished from Tigerdirect. I dont know much about computers. And this might not be the fought of VISTA,BUT i cant seem to get on very many websites now, like BITTORRENT, PIRATEBAY, LIMEWIE and other similar.. to this.

    Have they blocked these? Does anyone know what the deal is?

    I seem to this this message; THIS URLS or SITE has been blocked.

    Someone tell me wtf is up

  41. Romulox June 9, 2009 at 7:01 pm #

    Bill shoul get an enema. But instead of warm water they should give him shatered pieces of every vista dvd disk on the planet. It took me like two freaking hours to install my wacom drivers. F*** It’s like he wants us to remember the old days when we couldn’t do anything but wait.

  42. Theta July 24, 2009 at 10:10 pm #

    The thing that really angers me about it, is EVERYTHING is different. The Registry is locked, for no good reason even with Admin access. Security up the wazoo, Yippie![/sarcasm]. I trashed my Registry trying to change a setting because apparently being an admin is not enough.

    On top of that, it’s IMPOSSIBLE to find anything thus making it harder to get work done.

    This was mainly on Windows 7, but I had similar issues on Vista that pissed me off (Like how it corrupted 24 hours after my NEW laptop preinstalled it).

  43. Monty August 26, 2009 at 4:52 am #

    Hey, I an a MAC user from the very start of all this crap, now i have an iMac. 3.06 GHZ
    4 GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce 8800 GX(or GT or smthin) 512MB High speed VRAM
    1712 MB VRAM total(Found that out today) 1TB HDD 7200 RPM and a whole lot more.
    Anyway i Have Vista 32-Bit installed Sucks like a peice os crap. i close one windows explorer window(RIDICULOUS NAME I PREFER Finder < MAKES SENSE CAUSE UR FINDIN THINGS!) and BOOM windows explorer has stopped working Restart windows explorer (Windows explorer is restarting) then the task bar and everything except the background is gone. i have to log out and in.!!!! i try to install crysis with UAC on i get like 700 Do you want to continue with this i get them for things like Installer is trying to modify C/Programs/EA/Crysis/Bin32/directory/level/shader/patchwork?????? SO HELPFUL. I DONT GET THIS UAC ANYWAY ITS LIKE U NEED ADMIN PRIVILEGES TO DO THIS CONTINUE? ???? ANY DUMB FUCK CAN CLICK YES?!?!?!?>
    I HAVE TO ENABLE WINDOWS CLASSIC THEMES TO PLAY GAMES OTHERWISE THEY ARE IN THE TOP CORNER AND UN CALIBRATED TO THE FUCKIN MOUSE. MACS UAC of wahtever admin priveledges actually asks for an admin PASSWORD NOT A FUCKING YES OR NO

  44. Monty August 26, 2009 at 4:55 am #

    More comedy for windows explorer crashing.

    Windows Explorer has stopped working
    Windows Explores sounds like dora the explorer.

  45. erick September 15, 2009 at 1:37 pm #

    i started googling a few weeks back looking for solutions to my Vista woes. my frustration led me to this blog. it’s more than two years since this blog was started, and VISTA STILL SUCKS!

    • Riyad Kalla September 17, 2009 at 10:54 am #

      Erick,

      Vista absolutely does suck — but if it’s any consolation Windows 7 is much better. It’s not perfect, but it’s what Vista was *suppose* to be — if that helps provide any indication.

  46. smashem2pieces September 23, 2009 at 5:30 pm #

    i bought a new toshiba with vista installed it was extremly annoying i took it back to best buy and asked if i could put xp on it they said no because the devices installed on there wouldnt work so i went back home and while using it the system locked up so i eventually pulled the battery after trying everything to get it to reboot,,,,,,when i got it to come back on it said there was an error and that i would have to restore it to factory settings and all my stuff would be lost …so i folded the laptop backwards smashed it against the coffee table the stomped on it and collected the tiny little pieces and dumped them off at the best but store sidewalk i had bought it at ….what a piece of crap and shame on all these computer manufacturers that cater to that idiot bill gates

  47. Tom Dalton October 12, 2009 at 1:47 pm #

    Um, hello

    You guys forgot that xp me and 2000 all found drivers automatically.

    Vista never finds the driver you need for your hardware.

    Come on why hasn’t anyone talked about this.

    • Riyad Kalla October 15, 2009 at 7:44 am #

      Tom,

      FWIW, I noticed Windows 7 is a bit better about this — I do recall this sucking ass in Vista, but W7 seems smarter/more successful with this.

  48. Tom Dalton October 15, 2009 at 8:07 am #

    I just wonder. I think that Bill Gates needs to stop running that System 7 commercial with that little girl, and have a multinational national, (many children many genders, and many backgrounds.) commercial with many children.

    What if I was one that didn’t like children at all.

    or

    Now I’m not saying per say that the child has to be white. That I do not care. But there should be many children not just a child who to me any way, (may or may not seem American). I hope I have explained myself in a non discriminatory way.

    Not only did Vista out right suck, but the kid for system seven seems to be from some where other then the US. Not that I’m saying that everyone from the US has to be white and male. haha.

    To sum, this up at a time when we are Going American Again, the comerical does not capture the pride of America for me. I find it to be very insulting is all.

    I hope people understand what I’m trying to get at without sounding like a jerk.

    I am very hesitant to buy Windows 7 at such an early release date. Everyone knows the first release is never a good release. I think Microsoft needs to bring back ME, my favorite OS. But just enhance it for future use.

  49. Dan October 26, 2009 at 3:19 pm #

    no thanks ill stick with xp. sounds like another fucking joke like vista

  50. will November 7, 2009 at 10:04 am #

    I had windows xp pro spc 2 for 5 years now, never given me headaches and so far the most reliable windows OS, but I bought a laptop with vista home premium a year ago, yeah the new features and security with home networking is neat, but a simple error in the registry after uninstalling a software fucks the OS up, the system tends to hang (freeze, non responsive after trying to run diagnostics) I probably never buy or upgrade to windows 7, windows xp is still reliable.

  51. Pritush November 21, 2009 at 8:00 am #

    I actually liked instant search , bit it is confusing as u told, i was annoyed by the lots of unnecessary security dialog. UI is nice and make PC really slow , since i was a gamer and with vista my pc was getting slow i switched back to XP.

    • Riyad Kalla November 25, 2009 at 9:19 am #

      Pritush, you might give Windows 7 a try — it’s what Vista was *suppose* to be, a lot less of those annoying security dialogs and performance is much closer to Win XP.

  52. jenky December 18, 2009 at 2:14 am #

    vista is shittttttttttttyyyyyy WTF! vista is junk! goddamit security sucks. D E P sucks more….

  53. David January 16, 2010 at 7:36 am #

    Windows vista is the worst, most useless OS ever. Windows DVD maker doesnt even work. Every internet browser I have tried freezes up when I use the internet for more than say half an hour. The security warnings a a nightmare. What was Microsoft thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  54. Nojah January 16, 2010 at 8:59 pm #

    Am I alone? I actually enjoy vista over XP. Sure it has its problems, but so does every other OS out there. From what I’ve read, the vast majority of “problems” in Vista are actually just things people don’t care for, not actual issues, (I know about its security issues and whatnot…). Not everthing is for everyone, as we all have our own preferences. But quit complaining about it.

    • Luis January 21, 2010 at 1:03 pm #

      yes, you’re alone. Windows Vista is the biggest POS operating system ever done in the history of computers.

  55. Piza January 30, 2010 at 4:46 pm #

    YOU GUYS ARE SUCH NOOOOOBS, VISTA DOESTN SUCK, YOU JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW TO WORK WITH IT, IF YOU DONT, YOU FAIL WITH COMPUTERS!!

    • Anonymous April 26, 2010 at 9:51 pm #

      Okay, Mr. Pizza. I sympathize with your lack of command of the English language. Apparently, grammar was your downfall in your class of lower learning. Hopefully, the teachers adjusted your grades, given your “special education” status. Obviously, you haven’t yet reached the age of puberty so I will excuse your ignorance.

      As far as I’m concerned, in your own words: “Vista doestn suck.” No, Junior, it doestn suck.” IT SUCKS!

      Ask your parents for a refund on your tuition. Do you think speaking and spelling properly do not(or “doestn”) matter? You are sadly wrong.

      Yes, we may fail with computers without geeks like you. So how come “we” did so well until Vista came along?

      And, may I quote a reader who said this so eloquently:

      “……Vista does suck and there is nothing we can do about it. I didn’t like it when it was first advertised with commercials with homely kids and smirking parents. Any parent that puts any trust into a software to control or protect your kids should probably(sic)looking in the mirror for one of society’s biggest failers.”

      Amen.

  56. Turlis February 6, 2010 at 2:03 pm #

    Vista is dumb. I hate it. Bought a laptop with it installed and after using it for a few hours I then had to format and reinstall Vista with the disks that came with it. The disks are special because it only works for the brand and it forces you to use it if you want certain features like being able to adjust screen brightness. Trying to network it to a desktop with XP was a pain. The wireless connection didn’t work half the time. All those security checks. I had to remove it so it wouldn’t notify me of the danger of not being protected. Installing shockwave always spike up the CPU to 50-100% even when it’s running in the background. Playing games, watching videos, streaming all cause 100% CPU. I play emulators that always goes up to 100% and it doesn’t recognize some games.

    After a year of it I formatted and installed XP instead. The only bad thing is I have to look for all the drivers myself like wireless and lan adapter, video, audio, touchpad, brightness control(which I haven’t found), etc. Hoever, it is running well with CPU usage in check.

  57. Anonymous April 8, 2010 at 7:53 pm #

    i dont know if you guys notice this too, but i have vista on my laptop and of course i take it back and forth between work and home. at work, the wireless is fine. when i get home, i connect to my wireless network and it is connected fine, i am surfing the web with no problems
    then..
    everything freezes
    pop up says “connecting to broadband”
    i press exit, another one opens,then another one, until i have fucking 20 ‘error’ messages in my screen. everytime i close one another one pops up.. but the thing is.. i was connected FINE
    why was it trying to CONNECT when i am already CONNECTED
    good job microsoft, you just pissed off 4 million people and made 600 million dollars

  58. Anonymous April 15, 2010 at 3:09 pm #

    How do I shut VISTA down from updating and screwing up my computer? I don’t want VISTA updates!

  59. Anonymous April 24, 2010 at 5:17 am #

    Vista does suck and there is nothing we can do about it. I didn’t like it when it was first advertised with commercials with homely kids and smirking parents. Any parent that puts any trust into a software to control or protect your kids should probably looking in the mirror for one of society’s biggest failers.
    I did like Windows XP fine enough. But like anybody buying a new computer at a department store there was some hope for Vista. Why not? Its not like we had a choice.
    It took a day to learn how terrible Vista is! File searches are much more difficult, limited, and restricted than any previous version.
    It came with no photo shop or windows word. Basically when the 60 day trials that came with Windows Vista expire you are left with something less than Windows 3.0!
    With Vista I deal with so much more problems on my PC than ever before. “Windows 7 or Vista was my idea” does not mean it is a good idea.

  60. Anonymous April 26, 2010 at 9:27 pm #

    Article? What article? Sorry, it’s a great article. But after I started reading it and the comments following, I become so engrossed(and enraged) in them that my anger reached an all-time high and I forgot the article. Apologies to the author. (You brought out my inner devil.) Back to Vista: what was “He” thinking? This is a worthless piece of crap and if my son hadn’t bought this for me for Mother’s Day 2 yrs.ago, it would be boiled, fried, shredded and burned – with the ashes distributed over the Delaware River. I sorely miss my Commodore 64.
    (ha ha)

    e.

  61. Anonymous April 29, 2010 at 10:32 am #

    na Windows vista is accually better than xp. i do alot od pocket pc and windows mobile reviews and windows vista is nice about drivers. vista even has a device sync already builtinto the system. also it looks beutifull. i have craappy specs but once i insatlled a graphics controler my computer was fastest ive ever seen. i mean the orb in the begging…rite when the orb glowed i was already on the desktop screen lol

  62. Deadman July 29, 2010 at 2:26 pm #

    Oh man oh man did I have to jump on this 3 years and running thread!!! Nice guys! Vista was/is total garbage. I stuck with xp at home until I started the 7 beta last year. I love it. It’s awesome. It still has a few issues, but for the most part, it’s awesome.

    We’re still pushing Vista at work. We have asked why we’re pushing such a horrible product out. We have test beds all over the world fielding 7 right now so hopefully within the next year we’ll get to start pushing 7 out. I hope it’s easier to deploy than vista is. Being a relative new-comer(I was a radio tech up until 6 months ago), I have been working on automating vista deployments to new machines and I just keep smacking into road-blocks. Vista seems to be fighting me every step of the way.

    • Riyad Kalla August 2, 2010 at 12:17 pm #

      Deadman,

      Windows Vista was Windows ME all over again — anyone remember that? Was suppose to be better than Windows 95, but was 95 + a ton of bugs and broken features… so then 2k came along and sucked a lot less.

      Either way happy to hear you guys are at least looking into pushing 7, Vista would be a waste of time and money.

      • Dazed and Confused September 2, 2010 at 9:15 pm #

        Mr Riyad

        I found this blog after typing Vista f*&*&ing sucks into Google lol. I see you say that 7 is better. I use this laptop for my business and I hate Vista so much I can’t stand it. The problem is that I have an auto repair software that is housed on a 500mb sep hard drive. The OS for the repair info is housed on this box. If I install 7 will it erase that? If it won’t then I will pony up for the 7 and chalk Vista up for the nightmare that it was.

        • Riyad Kalla September 3, 2010 at 12:39 am #

          Dazed and Confused,
          Great story about how you found the site :)

          Windows 7 is better, but it’s not night and day better. If the things you hate about Vista are some of the changes like the UI or how things are laid out, Windows 7 is very very similar in all these regards.

          If the issues you are having with Vista are memory, performance or compatibility related, Windows 7 *may* help that, but it’s hard to guess from here.

          I just wanted to put that disclaimer in there so you didn’t expect some amazing difference between Vista and Win 7 and be disappointed.

          As to your question about the repair/restore partition. That is sort of an issue — if you install Windows 7 and make sure to select the specific partition for it to install to, it will leave your recovery partition alone as well as that external hard drive

          ** HOWEVER **

          Your computer is setup from the factory to restore from that Vista-created partition. So if you ever do need to recover your computer or restore it, that functionality will either overwrite your install of WIndows 7 with Vista again, or it might complain — it’s hard to tell, I don’t know how the recovery process works on your computer.

          All in All, unless you are *miserable*, your money might better be spent on a newer laptop if you need one. If you don’t, upgrading your machine to Windows 7 (or doing a clean install) and ignoring the recovery partition is totally a viable option. I’m just hesitant to recommend that because I don’t know how computer savvy you are and wouldn’t want to recommend you do something then get backed into a corner where you didn’t know how to recover the laptop.

  63. hakunushi August 30, 2010 at 8:13 pm #

    god… ppl doesnt want to think anymore

    news for u… computers require thinking beings to be operable

  64. 123 October 2, 2010 at 11:40 am #

    Windows Vista has been glitchy ever since I bought it! First, the speakers and earphones stopped working, then the wireless Internet connection broke down, then several viruses infected it, and now the motherboard is damaged! So now I have about a thousand’s dollars worth of useless wires and such!

  65. ROBERT November 13, 2010 at 3:36 pm #

    I work on computers. I worked on a Toshiba with Vista Home Premium installed legally with the legal COA Key on the bottom sticker. Well, long story short, Windows came up “Non-genuine” and rendered the laptop useless. Called Microsoft, they could not figure it out. 4 hours on the line with them and I finally fixed it in less than 3 minutes with a crack. I am not sorry. How in the world will Micorosft justify illegal software on a laptop with the legal COA sticker on the bottom? Hmmmm, Not sure but I am positive it will not be something they would persue:

    “Your honor, this person ilegally installed a key with a legally owned software that is the same OS that the illegal key is designed for… uhhh nevermind your honor.”

    I urged most of my customers to either purchase Windows XP or Windows 7. Windows Vista has been a nightmare for everyone in some form or another.

  66. HaHaHaHa December 20, 2010 at 12:38 pm #

    Man I just read all the comments here and all I see is a bunch of idiots with no Idea how to adapt to a new os. In the 84 comments and over 3 years of complaints I don’t see one shred of evidence that vista sucks, just a bunch of crying from people who are apparenty either not interested in learning how to use thier new os or are to stupid to. All I hear about is “how my (Insert Random hard/software name) won’t work. WAHHHHH”. But does anyone stop to think that MS DOES NOT MAKE YOUR DRIVERS it’s not ms fault that device makers would rather you buy a new peice of hardware than write a driver that works with a clearly better os than XP. And as far as the security goes I say you morons got what you deserved. You spent the better part of 6 years crying how xp wasn’t secure, so ms did some research on people just like the idiots here and found the only way to keep you from destroying your own computer was to put the new security in place. They then discovered that people get pissed when you stop them from fucking up their computer AND they will then blame every other piece of 3rd party software problems on you. So in summary if you have no idea how an os works don’t complain and if you do then let’s see you do it better.

  67. Hello January 7, 2011 at 4:05 am #

    Wanksock shit sucker vista suck bill gates dick

    • Goodbye January 8, 2011 at 1:41 am #

      Well arnt we mature about thing, first off the idea of suckin shit is well… bad

      yes vista does suck dick, but if it were to suck bill gates (which im sure is non existant anyway) thatd be a bit ironic.

      So yeah vista is bad but the way you put it across could not be anymore immature even if you tried

  68. Riaa January 23, 2011 at 6:55 pm #

    So I now have Vista, but I used to have XP.
    Vista is terrible.
    It takes forever to download all my games, such as MapleStory, and Puzzle Pirates.
    Is there anything I can do to make the download time faster?
    Any advice would be appreciated. :)

  69. Anomusos March 29, 2011 at 9:29 pm #

    Visa sucks, my $1,100 laptop had 3-4 startup crashes today( i don’t even remember witch) my grandma who berly even knows how to run the pc has windows 7 on it (don’t ask me how she got 7 and I didn’t) and her pc runs at least twice as fast as mine and mine is a 3.3 ghz quad core and hers is a 2.0 dual core.
    That’s just speed, windows installer is absolute &@!? It dosnt even work on my pc so I can’t install anything and when I go on the Internet to find a cure, Microsoft can’t tell me how or they say that I need some software that is “discontinued”. And when I look at other sites they are only restry cleaner that have are filled with viros and when the just discuss it (forms) no one has a way to fix it now I can see why people hate vista, and now I can start to see why people hate microsoft altogether. I’m typing this on my iPod and It dosnt have any problems it runs like a dream.

    So to wrap things up I apaolutly hate visa tomorrow I know that I’m gonna put vista on a big flash drive and I will grind it in a coffee grinder and pee on the remains ( bye bye vista) and then I will install windows xp or windows 7.

  70. Sean May 2, 2011 at 1:33 pm #

    my dad banned me from computer for using Linux Mint on my Vista box becasue he wasn’ts me to use windows… already 10 minutes online after my ban ended, more than 10 problems… afew days on Linux, no problems. His reasons? Hes afraid of viruses, and wants to “be compatible” with windows, compatible with what? Word documents that i can create on Mac’s and Linux? What is a shame that my older ’95 Linux PC runs better than my ’05 Vista powerhouse, and better than my ’11 Windows 7 box, just with outdated hardware but a hella fast OS.

    • Riyad Kalla May 3, 2011 at 9:53 pm #

      Sean, that’s a bummer, but it sounds like you know your way around a computer so I imagine that ban won’t do much to curtail your Linux use :)

  71. Eri June 2, 2011 at 5:52 am #

    One comment from me to summarize all my hatred toward Windows XP, and all windows products — “I WILL SWITCH TO APPLE very soon! and there will be no turning back! Ever!”

  72. Donnieboy June 3, 2011 at 5:36 pm #

    This site is a hoot, vista is such crap.

    • peter September 21, 2011 at 10:00 am #

      i hate bil! i feel rimjobed witch vista,and i want my mony back

  73. windows explorer has stopped working windows 7 December 13, 2011 at 7:59 pm #

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  74. stephen boyle March 22, 2012 at 12:08 pm #

    i am upgrading vista to 7 and i am not regretting it

  75. vista sucks April 5, 2012 at 11:31 am #

    I have a compaq presario C700 that runs vista. slow as hell. vista is garbage.

    I just installed xp home on this laptop (it’s only 5 yrs old), now it runs like a new pc. FAST. Vista was the reason this PC was s l o w.

    ditching vista to go back to xp, best thing I’ve ever done.

    windows sucks in general, but vista is the worst.

  76. remllab evets May 5, 2012 at 9:49 am #

    Sad thing for Vista, and these who claim Vista is designed by geeks for geeks, as a self acclaimed geek and software engineer for two decades, I hate it too.

    vista marked a sad decade for Microsoft.

    XP(2000)->something really really sucks->Windows 7…….

  77. scotty May 15, 2012 at 4:50 am #

    i living microsoft and buying a mac

  78. haste90 July 14, 2012 at 1:27 am #

    My dad got me Vista when I got a computer of my own. I would rather have no OS than Vista.. although Vista is what I’ve always used so I don’t know about the luxuries of other OS’s such as XP or 7.

    But I bet they are better than Vista. :-)

  79. scribbler October 2, 2012 at 6:15 pm #

    Windows Vista was the iteration that drove me away from Microsoft and its ilk three years ago.

    After performing a fresh (legitimate) reinstall on a more-than-capable laptop, it was working fine. My wireless card connected to the internet and work was as speedy as ever. Merely thirty minutes later, Windows detects my CD-based wireless firmware as a virus and the whole system comes crashing down, the only option being to reinstall Windows… AGAIN!

    That night, after a few months of “cheating” on Windows with Debian, I left it for good and haven’t looked back, since.

    Today, I hear people flippantly proclaim about their precious Windows systems, “Oh, it freezes and crashes ever once in a while, but that’s normal.” and instinctively reach for the power button. All I can do is shake my head and laugh.

  80. mickey November 22, 2012 at 7:33 am #

    it was Oct. 2007; I was running a notebook using XP 2002, and the power supply crapped out due to a lighning strike and cooked the CPU, and I urgently needed a computer so bought a replacement notebook, and yes (you’ve guessed it) it was loaded with Vista. Along with this was ie 7 and Win Media player 11 (beta) – both programs being the biggest load of forking sh*t I have ever come across in my life.
    I can’t remember how long I persevered with this situation, but not long after gave it to a computer shop, asking them to remove this Vista and install XP. They said fine, you can pick it up tomorrow.
    However, this f**king pos operating system couldn’t be removed, so in the end I had to install a new Hard Disk.

  81. Justin December 16, 2013 at 1:40 am #

    ahhhhh windows 8 so nice lol

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