Okay, maybe they are really nice guys. Maybe they give tons of donations to Toys for Tots every year (I don’t know, I am just imagining that perhaps they do), maybe they treat their wives like queens, and maybe they visit the elderly and teach them macrame.
None of these possibilities changes the fact that they are spewing enough unchecked bullshit that they actually make Jason and Grant look like Newton and Einstein. I watched the first episode, and I can’t even remember where they went, but I was certainly unimpressed. It wasn’t until the second episode – their visit to Tombstone – that I actually felt the kind of rage that I generally reserve for people who lie on TV. That is because these f*ckers lied on tv.
“But Katie, how do you KNOW that they lied on tv? Who would ever do such a thing?”
The Clunge brothers, that’s who.
While I was watching this episode, our band of intrepid buttwads excitedly, even SPASTICALLY, declared the discovery of a “shadow person” in the Boothill Graveyard. Now, right off the bat, this “shadow person” was captured on a cheap camera in a dark graveyard by any of a number of slackjawed Texasholes, and looks a bit like Gingy from Shrek. Here, have a look:
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/ghost-lab-shadow-person.html
Pay specific attention to…well…the whole thing. Watch how they leap around like idiots because of their earth-shattering discovery that is going to rock the paranormal world. At one point they use their sophisticated SMART board technology to highlight the little shadowy cowboy. Now, take a close look at the legs of the cowboy and compare them to this photo that my friend, Adam, took while he was visiting Tombstone just a short time ago:
Specifically, the bottom of the wrought iron gates. There’s your effing cowboy. Seriously. It took me about two minutes to figure out that it was the bottom of a wrought iron fencepost, especially since they actually showed the grave during their daylight “debunking.” Although, given that they were deliberately trying to obscure the base of the wrought iron gate, I suspect that they are not only fools, but liars, too. They have a team of six, and a half-million dollar rolling lab and they can’t even do the most basic elimination of natural causes. Perhaps the most offensive part is that they claim to be “scientific” and they are constantly pulling half-assed theories out of the gaping chasm that is their collective intellect. They are not only part of the problem with the way paranormal investigation is portrayed on television, they EXEMPLIFY the very core of the issue by dismissing scientific method and Occam’s razor in favor of neanderthal grunting and GASPING (yes, I intentionally spelled “gasping”) at straws. Do you think they actually believe that is a shadow person? There isn’t even a real designation of “shadow person” anywhere in proper paranormal literature. The whole thing is totally made up. Go figure.
Adding to the overall issue is that they are gaining a fanbase. People are perfectly willing to accept their “mistakes” because they seem “really scientific” and they have “good theories.” They are and have neither of those things. Please don’t be fooled, people. Snap out of it! I don’t even know how these guys got a show. They probably couldn’t find their asses with both hands in their back pockets. Paranormal investigation is turning into one big “dead time” snipe hunt, and it’s embarrassing and ridiculous. The next lecture I give on our methodology is going to include a stick and a paper bag under the list of “tools.”
This is NOT real research. It isn’t even entertaining. They don’t even enunciate properly. Dare I say it, they are WORSE than TAPS!!!!
Great, here come the other three horsemen of the apocalypse. Thanks, guys.
It was I, if you remember correctly, who pointed out on our t.v., that it was the legs of the wrought iron gate that was their supposed “shadow person.” Just for the record.
KISS!
Agreed to all of the above, but I would also like to address the titles of these shows all contain the word “ghost” and it is starting to annoy me. Ghost Hunters, Ghost Adventure, Ghost Lab, and I’m sure there are more. Wait, isn’t Ghostly Encounters one of them? Anyway, if you are going to make up crap and go through the trouble of stringing fishing wire across a location to make a jacket move and such crap, let’s just really GO FOR IT. Screw ghosts, let’s go straight for demons and the heavy stuff. How about “Demon Adventures” or “Get Possessed”? If you are going to make crap up, just go straight for the really scary stuff. Ghosts are so blah. You know? Just sayin’.
OMFG … these guys are tools, and not the useful kind either. What a load of garbage nonsense, and straight up ignorance …
Even if I hadn’t been looking for the fencepost, I would have seen the OTHER fencepost beside it …
“Shadow person”, my ass … These jerk-offs have no credibility.
Actually, it seems to me that a good way to discredit a group, rather than present facts which may be considered too dry/too far above the intended audience and may be ignored, is to pretend to be part of the group you wish to discredit while lying and/or being really stupid, and drawing a lot of attention to yourself.
For instance, if I were trying to discredit paranormal researchers, I’d put a show on TV, featuring “researchers” who aren’t all that bright (bonus points if they don’t have to pretend to be ignorant, more bonus points if they seem to be ignorant REDNECKS). I’d have them spin all kinds of wild and outrageous theories and stories. Then, while people who believe that Weekly World News was a serious newspaper are going to buy into everything my front men are saying, people with an IQ higher than that of a turnip will soon realize that my guys are full of crap. But since my guys are entertaining to SOMEONE, they have a show on TV, and the serious researchers don’t. And with any luck, there will be other guys like mine on the airwaves as well. Therefore, the general public will assume all paranormal researchers are idiots/liars/insane, and therefore discount out of hand anything REAL researchers may discover.
It worked for Greenpeace/REAL environmentalists, and for the government trying to hush up leaked stories/photos of experimental aircraft during the years of the UFO craze (better than just saying “It was a weather balloon/swamp gas”). ^_~
They are horrible at covering up their bull shit as well!
Was watching discovery channel and this show came on… was an episode titled “shadowman” and they captured a cold image on thermal cam that looks suspiciously like a misshaped water bottle.
They cut to a scene in their “lab” and a black guy says, “that looks like a water bottle.” and one of the rednecks comes back with, “there were no water bottles in the room!”
… with the power of modern tv, I rewind. The black guy was with them at the time and is shining a light into the room where this “shadowman” was, and you can clearly see an unopened package of water bottles on a couch… you know with the plastic still around it.
“That is because these f*ckers lied on tv.”
God forbid! It’s entertainment, but obviously it doesn’t do it for you. Read a book. Maybe that would help you learn to write.. maybe not.
Zach, nothing about your comment makes sense. “Read a book. Maybe that would help you learn to write.”
What cracks me up is that you were probably feeling very righteous and justified when you typed that. You really got me, eh?
Well, Zach, my publisher thinks that my writing is just peachy. That’s why I have gotten to write three books that you can get from ANY book store, Sweetie.
So, yeah…your comment = FAIL.
Thanks for posting, though.
Feel free to hop back into your rolling laboratory and spend thousands of dollars and man hours documenting aggressive dustbunnies and artifact noise. I’m sure someone will keep watching it.
Since you made such a point to be so critical about research-maybe you should be scolding yourself for 1. Taking the time to write a POS sh*t article and 2. Failing to get the spelling of the name of these guys that you despise so much. Its ‘Klinge’, *sweetie*. And I’m not even a fan, you’re just so gd annoying. But yah I’d rather waste my time watching their show than read another sh*tty article by you
You should have been on that show. You will fit right in with those retards.
I am watching this bullshit as I type this. They add in unneeded fuzz to HD cameras so who knows what they are adding to those “thermal cameras”….. The whole show is a joke and belongs on the sifi channel, not discovery.
I just saw one of their more recent shows where they get a supposed dark image on their thermal camera and it is in the shame of a water bottle. I think woogy mentioned this in a previous post, but when they walk back into the “lab” the black guy is clearly holding a water bottle in his hand and they say on screen that there was no water bottle in the room. I used to believe in paranormal stuff when I was a kid but after watching all this crap on tv, its obvious that it is all made up and based on fears that people have. If some tv station would give me the money to go out and disprove it I would, but I guess nobody wants to watch the truth.
Katie, good discussion. Keep it up
These guys are awful, who bankrolled them? Their tech van is worth more than 500 grand. Other than their mouths always in motion being annoying I am amazed that they ALWAYS find something, even if they hear things I sure cannot. I stopped watching this after the 3rd episode. As bad as Ghost Hunters can be they are far better than this (And they would be far better if they got rid of Steve whose ‘debunkings’ never bear ANY resemblance to the facts that were recited. And that other piece of crap — Ghost Adventures, ugh.
We got rid of Discovery Channel. Too much pseudo-scientific fantasy crap brought as scientific fact. We take this very seriously. Shows like this deludes people who don’t know better. Scares them even maybe. When people learn they’ve been fooled they may distrust the whole scientific community completely and start listening to liars who are happy to tell them that scientists can indeed not be trusted. As far as we concern Discovery Channel is part of a problem. This is more serious than crap like that Creationist Museum. At least you know it’s pure religion if you’d go there.
It would be cool if discovery would get back to showing programs based on actual science (history and engineering are fair too). Too much hyped crap on there these days.
This kind of shit makes me hate Discovery. I used to watch constantly. Now that I’ve seen the stupid paranormal crap they push I refuse to let this entire channel play in my house.
I started watching an episode and the young guy asks what a ghost person is – the fat leader guy explained it as a temperature anomoly “like a black hole” our eyes see. Never mind the fact that a CCD captured the image and it wasn’t seen with anyones eyes, even if that were possibly some difference.
The real black hole exists between these moron’s ears.
Discovery, you’ve lost another long-time watcher over this shit.
can’t believe they’ve got Mike Rowe narrating this tripe.
sigh
I just have to add this. These fucking idiots recording some magical audio response to the fat leader demanding the ghost come out of the shadows and get 3 odd sounds that they infer a name from.. this is worse than the California State Assembly finding hidden messages in music played backwards.
GOODBYE DISCOVERY, YOU EFFING MORONS
The show is horrible. I don’t believe anything these idiots say. I watched the entire first season and these guys are obviously former texas football players that are thriving for attention they used to get on the football field. The two brothers are like two neanderthals grunting and swearing and jumping around at every creak and bump. I especially liked the time they did some “scientific experiment” by hiding in the basement and scaring their investigators. No, what you were doing were being dicks and bullies just like I’m sure you were in high school.
As in most religions concerning those in charge of their specific superstions, my long experience in life has taught me you can lump these presenters, pastors, spiritual leaders into two catigories:
1, Those that actually beleave the nonsense they have chosen to subscribe and therefore, must locate and accumulate others that are willing be beleave the same goofy bullshit they beleave in order reinforce their stupidity.
2, They are cons and understand that without any education or training of any sort they can find enough sheep, marks, suckers and convince the afoerementioned into buying into their con.
I have not seen 30 seconds of any of the Ghost Lab shows because the comercials promoting their shows is enough. I’m 56 years old and I think I’ve worked too long and hard in life. Although I have more education than the 2 chaps on GL, if I dumb myself down a bit, buy a few video cameras and some props from the Goast Busters’ shoots I can poke around old houses and get lots of people to pay me money to produce a few ghosts. Better yet, do a L. Ron Hubbard or Rev. Moon and start a phoney ballony religion and make a lot more dough. HOW CAN DISCOVER DEFEND ITS CONTRIBUTION TO SCIENCE AND RUN THIS TRIPE? Rob
This is the same comment I submitted in 2011. I never proof read the first one and so I finally corrected my spelling.
As in most religions concerning those in charge of their specific superstition, my long experience in life has taught me you can lump these presenters, pastors, spiritual leaders into two categories:
1, Those that actually believe the nonsense they have chosen to subscribe and therefore, must locate and accumulate others that are willing to believe the same goofy bullshit they believe in order reinforce their stupidity.
2, They are cons who understand that (even without any education or training of any sort) they can find enough sheep, marks, suckers and convince the aforementioned into buying into their con.
I have not seen 30 seconds of any of the Ghost Lab programs because the comercials promoting their shows are enough. I’m 56 years old and I think I’ve worked too long and hard in life. Although I have more education than the 2 chaps on GL, if I dumb myself down a bit, buy a few video cameras and some props from the Ghost Busters’ shoots I can poke around old houses and get lots of people to pay me money to produce a few ghosts. Better yet, do a L. Ron Hubbard or Rev. Moon and start a phony ballony religion and make a lot more dough. HOW CAN DISCOVER DEFEND ITS CONTRIBUTION TO SCIENCE AND RUN THIS TRIPE? Rob
I’ve a master degree in physics, but you don’t need one to understand the “research” in Ghost Lab is severely lacking. It’s time the Discovery Channel starts peer reviews on shows they put up.
This doesn’t mean they’ll need to shut down all shows on paranormal activity, most of the physicists I know don’t mind to dabble into fringe science. At least it will bring back some of the credibility DC is loosing very fast now.
I met these guys out at THE MYRTLES PLANTATION halloween 2008, and i can tell u honestly all they cared about was making a buck. Im in a paranormal group called PAST, and I wanted to talk to them and try to learn something new. All they wanted to hear from me is how many dvd’s i wanted to buy. So not only are these guys giving a bad taste in the mouth of everyone studying this field with good intentions, but they arent even decent people to make up for their terrible investigative techniques.
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Im just thinking, alot of stuff, like that one episode where they investigated a house where silverware moves, they set it up, then it moves, and they miss it on camera…. alot of the time that’s the case, they see something, fail to have it on camera and we have to take their word for it. Alot of the time its obvious places to put cameras, down a hall, at a suspected window, in a suspected room and everyone should have a pov cam on them doing this…
So this reply is late in the game for this post but I just started trying to watch this show on netflix and as soon as my brain stops oozing out of my ears from the rampant stupid going on on my screen, I’ll turn it off. The larger of the two brothers makes me insane. I want to scream at him to stop talking. When did ‘confronting’ the spirit become a viable investigation method? It makes good tv if you want to appeal to the lowest denominator, the maury show audience, but it’s really distracting and disrespectful. I’ve made it as far as the Lizzy Borden episode and then I was done.
I watched Ghost Lab and Discovery Channel the first time during my vacation in spain, because my english is better than my spanish and I thought Discovery Channel would be scientific and informing. I realized immediate that all the series are on a lower level but this ghost Lab astonished me. If there are voices to hear from Ghosts or anything else – it would be in the news and everyone would know it – so it can be only manipulated and not even worth to show on a low level scientific Channel. The scientific channels I am used to watch in Europe are on a much higher level and I hope that we will not adopt series like that.
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